C-word C-words

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by Bwood_Horn, Apr 5, 2020.

  1. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    For doing a (major) 'favour' for a neighbour I was given, under duress, a £25 Tesco gift card. So my son and I combined a drive (to check on our car's battery) to B'wood's Tesco. We've been walking to the nearby Lidl, Aldi and Sainsbury Local during WWC for our shopping runs and as I've remarked before the absolute vast majority of people I've met on these shopping expeditions have been dealing with the epidemic with a great deal of tolerance and good humour. This afternoon in Tesco I had the extremely stressful experience of shopping amongst the largest collection of be-gloved and be-masked arseholes I've yet encountered - every single one of whom had an 'attitude'. Now I'm bright enough not to 'bite' as I know full well that that would only make a stressful situation much, much worse so I let it go - it was mainly walking past people transfixed/mesmerised in the aisles.

    Now the thing that I found really annoying was returning to the car when leaving the store - the car park was littered with discarded latex/nitrile gloves. OK I'm not expecting the great British public to dispose of the them as medical waste - but I would expect them to put them in a bin.

    Something you 'lay' people might not know is that when a scientist/clinician/medic first encounters working in a situation that requires nitrile gloves they are trained how to use them - putting them on and taking them off correctly (disposal afte each procedure) to minimise any cross contamination through the incorrect usage of them (one of my ex-bosses, a consultant pathologist, tried to teach as the 'proper' way to use them wearing just one but none of the students in the group would do it). If the gloves are not used in the correct way they're little more than extremely effective pathogen transport agents.

    Also using a bit of detective work: I saw no 'masks' littering the car-parkso I can only assume that the C-words are taking their nice & moist (and probably C-word ridden) fibre incubation centres off (with the cross-contaminated gloves) and lovingly transporting them home with them....
     
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  2. rochdale away

    rochdale away Reservist

    Serious question Bwood, I’m reusing a face mask which I’m having to use occ in a work environment. After use I’m spraying it liberally with 3% peroxide. Am I wasting my time?
     
  3. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    I'm No expert but I would think there's a risk of breathing in residual peroxide fumes from doing this and would peroxide actually kill the virus?

    Conventional advice is the virus lives on surfaces for up to 72 hours after drying out so if you had 4 or 5 masks you could rotate daily? If I recall correctly it's also killed by high temperature 60 centigrade ish so a boil wash might work but please don't take any risks, get proper advice, not likely available on a football forum.

    Stay safe.
     
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  4. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    You should ALWAYS take advice from unverified anonymous strangers over the internet - especially on such trivial matters as your health, safety and well-being,

    If the mask is a single use/disposable type it has neither been designed nor manufactured for washing with a powerful oxidising agent solution (H2O2) which will radically alter the mask's material properties. Knowing nothing about your washing procedure (using a peroxide solution in a spray) I'm imagining that the peroxide will severely damage the 'elastic' bands that hold the mask in place so it does not fit properly (same again with repeated use). Then there's the repeated effect of the powerful reagent on the masks' fibre filter - it will radically alter its filtration properties.

    I was also taught (and teach) that incorrectly used/fitted/maintained PPE does not offer 'some' protection it offers NO protection and is probably an offence under H&S legislation.

    If you are having to wear PPE in the workplace this should be supplied by your employer - if you're self-employed you have to ask yourself if doing what you are doing with PPE is it putting yourself and others at risk.

    FWIW I like H2O2 and it's the wound wash chez Bwood even if I get a bollocking from A&E medics over the tissue necrosis it causes....
     
  5. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    You'll probably be breathing in a peroxide aerosol which will immediately 'react' with anything in your 'damp' respiratory tract. But you're right it won't "...kill..." the virus as it's not actually alive but as it's a powerful redox agent it would denature the virus's wall structure. Just like aqueous surfactant suspension (soap and water).
     
  6. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    Most of the people you see wearing their various DIY dust masks, scarves etc. spend a lot of time adjusting them and touching their faces.
     
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  7. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Opposition set pieces often denature Watford's wall structure.
     
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  8. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    I saw a teenager walking a door last week wearing latex gloves. He spat on the floor and wiped his mouth with his gloved hand.
     
  9. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Liked for the reference to how many people have turned into utter morons, and are taking all this social distancing to utter (often completely illogical) extremes.

    I've gone for an early morning run at about 6 am the last couple of mornings. I don't come across many people at that time, but in the past I normally exchange a brief cheerful "Morning!" to those I pass, and normally get a "Morning!" back.

    But things have changed dramatically. I run on wide pavements with mostly grass verges up to the road, yet people have gone to the extreme of walking in the road to avoid me, possibly 6/7 metres away! Part of my run round a country park, and people have seen me coming and left a wide path actually going in the trees to distance themselves. One woman actually hid behind a tree!

    Out of the dozen or so people I have said "morning" to, I have only received one similar response back, everyone else has just been completely silent, not even a brief wave of acknowledgement. I can't help but wonder what sort of lives these people are living right now.

    Fortunately I don't take it personally.
     
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  10. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    So many examples of this. People back off like you've got a machete in your hand and you're speaking in tongues.
     
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  11. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    It's all so sad, we can still speak to each other :(

    I blame the media they are scaring people shitless every day with more and more doom and gloom stories, which are very often totally inaccurate and just wild speculation on their part, just to fill their 24/7 broadcasting hours :mad:
     
  12. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Yeah I’ve experienced this too while running. I’ve seen someone leap into a hedge and had parents physically shielding their small children from me, even when there’s ample room to keep 2-3m between us already. If people are that jumpy why are they going out?
     
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  13. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Bifold terrier or a French Bulldoor?
     
  14. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    I blame people like you, who think it's perfectly OK for everyone else to go about their business whilst thousands of people die when it could be avoided.

    Bet you still haven't been out.
     
  15. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    There are probably women hiding behind trees every time you take a run. They are normally just a bit quicker. :)
     
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  16. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    I’ll weigh in on masks.

    unless you use them correctly they are little use.

    Out and about there isn’t going to much in the way of droplets in the air.
    Much more likely you catch it the fomites hand to mouth route
     
  17. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Again your better off not touching your face and touching things other people have touched and washing your hands
     
  18. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Same. The worst of it is people walking with their back to you in the middle of the path with earphones in. Seriously, has the world turned into morons? The machete idea a few posts above is a good one.
     
  19. Wexford-yellow

    Wexford-yellow Academy Graduate

    But most countries promoting masks are doing so to prevent or rather reduce the risk of the wearer driving droplets at force through the air when they cough or sneeze.
    They should be worn if you are in danger of spreading the virus and as we're told we should all assume we are carriers it gets confusing for people as to whether it's right or wrong.
    My wife a medical worker does cover her face when shopping to prevent spreading any spores and not to prevent catching them as its completely useless for that.
    In fact it's quite the opposite as mentioned by some as people continue touching their face to adjust it
     
  20. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    so shes got a fungal infection m8
     
  21. Wexford-yellow

    Wexford-yellow Academy Graduate

    Droplets.
    And that's why she's the medical worker and I'm not.
     
  22. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I think this is my favourite ever opening line of a comment on here.
     
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