Watford Fc 1-2 Qpr - 01/02/2021

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Sort of OK, Jan 27, 2021.

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  1. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    This is all on Munoz. Awful selection, terrible subs (apart from Sema). Navarro is awful, surely Wilmot at left back and Ngakia would've made more sense?

    Cleverley ran himself into the ground. Sierralta was good until his silly yellow.

    We had a free kick in the 93rd minute and were going to launch it into the box. Every defender and attacker ran into the box when the cross came in apart from Deeney who just stood there. And he carried on standing there as the keeper bowled the ball over his head and they counter attacked. Much like the rest of the game, he was just walking.

    Yet again we have been out passed, out played and out thought by a team with far inferior players. Even when we win, we never look like we have a proper game plan or identity. We kind of scrape through to a win.
     
  2. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    2nd to everything. Lost most 50/50 and 2nd balls cleverly and chalobah were covering for our fb’s most the game. Navarro looked lost out of position and when on the ball wasted it time after time.
    King ken only player to look threatening everyone else were off the pace if that was a better team than qpr it could of been embarrassing
    If this squad was to go up by some miracle it would get destroyed needs a massive overhaul even to contend in this league.
    I’ve an idea let’s go and bolster the u23 squad with kids who either never made it at a top academy or have superstar parents


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  3. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    With no crowds I suspect they have no idea of the growing disquiet and unease. Even the most laid back of the fanbase must surely be getting concerned.
     
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  4. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Did we win?
     
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  5. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Also, Marc Navarro is the worst footballer I have ever seen. I've seen Scottish division 2 players play for NI and countless League 2 players and not one of them was as bad as Navarro.

    This is based on his entire Watford career to date, not just this one game.

    His desire to have horrendous long shots/free kicks at stupid times, his inability to defend, his complete lack of pace, his poor distribution/crossing and his chicken-like sense of positioning.
     
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  6. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    It's not controversial, of course he wasn't the reason we lost, he wasn't on long enough for that, but he was still utterly s hit - they're separate points.
     
  7. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    It's not ALL on Munoz at all.

    Whilst I agree with your summary, and yes, he does take some stick tonight, it's down to the idiots running our football club and has been for about 2 years now!
     
  8. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    What precisely is anyone at the club expecting to happen with Deeney and Gray playing as our main strikers?

    striker
    (straɪkəʳ football and some other team sports, a striker is a player who mainly attacks and scores goals, rather than defends.
    ...and the England striker scored his sixth goal of the season.

    Deeney and Gray have two goals from open play this season (at an approximate cost of £1.5m per goal in wages)

    So again, taking the second paragraph into account and then considering the third, what is anyone at the club actually expecting to happen??

    And that’s even before looking at the countless other glaringly obvious issues. For example, Munoz the ‘attack minded coach’ who just looks like a tactically inferior version of Ivic? Where is the attacking football?
     
  9. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Most of all? Come on mate. Most of the happy clappers are just optimistic folks who support the club. Anger should be directed at Gino, and rightly so.
     
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  10. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    This Charlie Austin interview says it all -

    ‘I moved because I just wanted to play football. I love playing football and I want to score goals.’

    Can you imagine any of our clowns having that attitude?
     
  11. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Overall, yes. But not tonight. He put a winger as a defensive midfielder next to a knackered Cleverley.

    He. is. an. idiot.
     
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  12. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Thought he did OK tonight. Held on to some tricky shots. He's good enough for this league.
     
  13. jackwfc

    jackwfc Academy Graduate

    Absolutely pathetic, 3 of our last 4 goals have been penalties, dead obvious we needed a striker, I hope this is a wake up call for Gino in the stands that he’s truly ****** us over.
     
  14. Mazzereth

    Mazzereth Academy Graduate

    Emma said, "We go again".
     
  15. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    The 2 millstones around our necks. Laughing all the way to the bank. Oh dear we lost. Never mind the gravy will keep flowing in. Time to plan a new spa complex/recording studio/gold-plated bathroom. Who cares so long as we get paid.
     
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  16. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Austin gave a nice interview. Maybe he would have been a better signing than Murray.
     
  17. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    He can’t be picking this team, surely? I’ve never ever brought into those sorts of suggestions but I’m seriously entertaining it right now. That selection, and the subs, are so full of square pegs in round holes in a basic formation that it almost defies belief anyone with any footballing nous would put their name to it.
     
  18. bedmond_hornet

    bedmond_hornet First Year Pro

    We deserve all the negative press we get. A truely awful run club. Personally I think the last 5 years have been complete luck! The clowns at the top haven't a clue how to run a football club.

    We are now right back where we were when they first took over. No money and huge amounts of debt debt. Major difference is we now have a load of awful players on vast wages and long contracts.

    A scatter gun transfer policy has seen millions upon millions of wasted money. Not to mention 5 year contracts being handed out to finished players. Add to that an embarrassing list of awful managerial appointments that last less than a year.

    In the main below average football on show for the duration. We scraped our way to an FA Cup final with an awful squad playing turgid football. We then fluffed a chance of a decent league finish.

    They then ignored all of the sqauds frailties and went again and acted surprised when we went down. What a surprise. They even had the audacity to say they would give promotion a good go and then signed a 37 year old and paid him 30k a week to train with the under 23s.

    Leaked stories of player power & money being borrowed against future successes. Watford have become EVERYTHING I detest in a football club.

    I'm sure some rose tinted members will say "What about the 4 sided temporary stadium we now have" bla bla bla. I'll counter that with zero academy and no decent youth prospects.

    All the last 5 years has done is postpone the position we were in when they took over.

    Rest assured, when they finally sell up we will be in a far worse state than when they took over.
     
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  19. So lets compromise the entire team because we don't have a 9
     
  20. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Anyone else notice that as soon as they showed Gino in the crowd we conceded the equaliser? Perfectly timed editing.
     
  21. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    Have supported wfc since 1970.

    i dont care any more
     
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  22. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    Disappointing performance overall. We shouldn't play both Chalobah and Hughes in a 4-4-2 as it means we got no width on the left. Sema did well when he came on and ought to be in the running for a start at the weekend. Unusual lapses at the back in a home game which was unusual for us. Pedro and Deeney didn't look like scoring in open play, the goalscoring problems remain. Gray coming on as sub made no difference. On to the next one. Still in a play off place so not the end of the world.
     
  23. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Reservist

    I give up. I think I'll start supporting a non-league team instead, in the hope of seeing some better football. Not sure who. Open to suggestions.
    It's unbelievable really. I've not a clue what his thought process is for that. I can only assume there isn't one.
     
  24. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    Deserved everything we got we made a **** Queens Park Rangers team look good. The line up was a joke Zinkerangel is probably wondering why he even come here he will be another promising player that we will ruin. No excuse for Hughes playing on the left wing when Joao Pedro, Zinkeragel and Sema were available. Wrong substitutions also should have brought Cleverley off and put Hughes in the centre, shouldn't have taken JP off for Gray either. Navarro is **** he cant defend or attack I pray that Kiko is back for Saturday and Massina not Ngakias fault though he is a young boy and he is not a left back, this is the clubs fault.
    We knew we were not getting the winner when Gray come on and was chasing his own shadow. Not getting g top 2 will be lucky to get in the play offs if Gino can seriously sit the Vic and watch that tonight and think we have enough then he has gone completely ******* bonkers.
     
  25. NemoNemo

    NemoNemo Reservist

    Nothing is right about the club at the moment. It’s just a crazy situation run by an absolute clown of an owner. I’ve not see one single sign of intent from management to get us promoted this season. The only reason the players from last year are here now is because they are way too expensive for the crap that they are. Sarr is probably one of the most overrated and expensive transfers in history and everyone knows it. We’ve sold anyone worth selling and brought in **** all.
    Watch it all unravel from here. Automatic promotion is all but over and if we stay in the playoffs by a miracle it will be a hammering like against Hull when we last crashed out of the PL last time. **** Gino, **** Duxbury, **** Xisco, etc etc
     
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  26. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    Can't disagree.

    Although the owners have given him NOTHING to compete with, he's had to name 4 or 5 academy players on the bench tonight.

    What I don't understand is why persist with 4-4-2 when we don't have the right players to play that system!? It's crying out for 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1.
     
  27. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Still plenty of pro-Pozzo weirdos around I’m afraid.
     
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  28. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    20000 pounds a week sterling as well. Nice work if you can get it. Thanks to Floppo and Gino for bringing him in while other clubs bring in youngsters with ability like Pickering or this chap Sorinola at MK Dons. It makes you weep. Best scouting network in the world. Could have signed Tagliafico for £8M, Ake for 19M. But for Pozzo the twit defenders are optional. It's like a stock market for him.
     
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  29. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Best side won end of story. Absolutely clueless performance. Just embarrassing to watch yet again.
     
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  30. And the reason for that is our 2 in the middle were overloaded by their 3. And the reason for that is 442 is a joke of a system at this level.
     
  31. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    4-4-2 is the only formation that gets anything out of Deeney.

    Ivic rested Deeney and got fired.

    Munoz has played 4-4-2 for every minute of every game.

    Join the dots. Deeney FC, the team for me.
     
  32. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    And what defensive tightness Ivic coached into them also seems to be melting away. We are truly in a pickle.
     
  33. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Some perhaps. The day trippers for example. But Pozzo has made me realise how much I can’t stand some of our fan base. Pious, sanctimonious idiots some of them. Consistently wrong yet they can’t admit it.
     
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  34. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I genuinely believe Munoz is picking the team, I just think he is an idiot.

    His entire management philosophy is based around Sweet Caroline.
     
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  35. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    Not controversial, all true. My only comment is that you mention the only 2 good things Gray did.
     
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