Qpr 1-1 Watford Fc - 21/11/2020

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Otter, Nov 16, 2020.

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What will the result be

Poll closed Nov 21, 2020.
  1. Watford win by 3 or more

    12.5%
  2. Watford win by 2

    22.2%
  3. Watford win by 1

    31.9%
  4. Score draw

    15.3%
  5. No score draw

    4.2%
  6. QPR win by 1

    9.7%
  7. QPR win by 2

    2.8%
  8. QPR win by 3 or more

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Whatever the Illuminati want you to believe the score will be

    1.4%
  1. J.B

    J.B First Team

    There was someone on here confidently (and seriously) stating that he would be a future Balon d’Or winner a couple of months ago.
     
  2. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    You weren't even replying to that comment in the comment that I replied to, so I don't know why you're picking that out, but either way, once again, this false pretence that analysis/criticism of a player's game/performance is automatically apportioning 'blame' at all, let alone for everything, is incredibly tiresome and childish.

    Again, point out to me where, in either of my comments on him, I say anything approaching: 'Ismaila Sarr is to blame for the faults that we see in this team and club'.
     
  3. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    One more performance like that I’m going to burn my clappers , bin my COG and go full bedwetter .
     
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  4. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Very strongly doubt that there is another player right now or previously in the league who cost his club between 30 and 40 million pounds - I might imagine that Solanke comes in second with his reported £19m. Muff managed to get Brooks for just £11.5, apparently.
     
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  5. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    Ivic's prefered formation is 433, not sure why its not viewed as our best formation with the current squad. Kiko should be able to do an ok job at left back.
    Foster, Ngakia (Any 2) Kiko, Cleverley Caps Sema, Sarr Gray/Perica JP
     
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  6. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    He's been our most important player taking all the games played so far. I can't compare with other squads in the division as I don't watch enough of them. His contribution FOR US on the pitch overall has been important. He's lacked consistency but I don't remember a long spell of consistency he has had for us to be honest. The reputation and price tag thing, I will leave it for others to make up their own minds as to what they are expecting. Some will say he should be like Messi in this league others will say he cant do it on his own.
    FYI, my own opinion of his possible move to Liverpool was that it was too soon, he wouldn't get many games he's not at that standard right now.
     
  7. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I actually thought we did very well first half, and obviously I’m a wetter. The front 3 looked so dangerous. How Ivic saw fit to hook two of them
    at half time and change formation is completely beyond me. All on Ivic that one for me. Lucky to get a point in the end.

    We need Gray playing game in game out. He will score a bundle in this league if deployed correctly.
     
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  8. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Sarr is a very good winger but a hopeless centre forward. On the wing he can use his pace and doesn't have many decisions to make. In the middle he has more thinking time and rarely comes to the right conclusion.
     
  9. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    He gets really wound up about posts like this. Get the popcorn chaps :)
     
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  10. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I’m stumped by it. So we looked good, threatening and scored a goal. But Ivic backed us to be better at defending a one goal lead, than we would be at scoring another goal and also not letting one in, something we’d just done successfully in the prior 45 minutes. Madness. And all this against a team in 18th, not Norwich or Swansea or Bournemouth.
     
  11. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Oh my God, they got you.
     
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  12. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Not sure why Sarr is getting pelters. Think he has been a bit underwhelming but still one of our most important players.

    My big concern is that Ivic is going to waste this chance to bounce back. The competition is low grade but this must be the season we go up. Sarr, Hughes will be gone next summer. And please play Ngakia!!!!
     
  13. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    Cheer up darlin'. :)
     
  14. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    Yes agree better out on the wing.
     
  15. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member


    Another one hyped up no end by the club who isn't playing...

    They had a big thing with Garner on the site too.

    Probably knew he wouldn't be involved.
     
  16. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Yes, that response about sums it up, doesn't it.
     
  17. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    Agreed. If you take Sarr out of that team we have absolutely nothing to offer going forward.
     
  18. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    It's a genuine concern. Forums even with banter are fair game - I get that but this fella is just 100% hatred on anything and everything. It can't be healthy.
     
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  19. mindthegap

    mindthegap Academy Graduate

    I strongly disagree with those who said we were rubbish/shyte etc.
    We did well enough creating chances that we should have been 3 goals up at h/t.
    It certainly isn't VI's fault that WTE or Wilmot or Sarr cannot convert fairly easy chances.
    Obviously the second half was much different and Ivic played a big part in this.You cannot save some players for the next game when you need them on the pitch.I guess a victory on Wednesday will mean his reasoning worked but there is no guarantee of that and the 3 points today were there to take.
    Fair play to QPR who were much improved in the second half and noticed we don't have any full backs who can defend and that dragging Wilmot or Cathcart out wide creates space and opportunities in the middle.
    Any coach can see where our problems are and they are taking advantage of that.Ivic needs to make the changes to ensure they stop doing that.
    Roll on Wednesday because it'll be really interesting to see if he has learnt anything.
     
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  20. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    People can rant on the forum and still be quite happy with the rest of their lives. Quite partial to a moan myself.
     
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  21. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Using Sarr in the Championship is like using a Ferrari to drive around a dirt track. Not suitable.
     
  22. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Thing is, we could have bought the same attacking threat that Sarr gives us for £5m and bought players to strengthen the rest of the team as well, so we didn't get relegated.

    As it is we paid well over the odds for a luxury and we are where we are.
     
  23. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    On top of that, former pros will fall over themselves to tell you that the most important thing in football is momentum, and that players will put themselves in every minute of every game, given the chance. I'd wager we would be far more likely to have been on the road to a positive result on Wednesday night had we done what was needed and won this one, going into the match top of the league to boot.
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2020
  24. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Fair point about the first half chances.
    I have no idea how WTE failed to score,just needed to get it on target and the others weren't much harder.
     
  25. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I’ve never, ever, been a fan or agreed with taking attacking players off to defend a lead.

    I think it actually increases the likelihood of conceding rather than decreasing it. You’ve got less of an outlet, you invite more pressure on to yourselves and have to sustain more attacks on your goal, not less.

    A great example was us against Wolves in the cup semi. They had the game won, but flushed it away by trying to stick with what they had and handed the game to us.

    There are two scenarios to me when it makes sense. You’re playing a big team (like us playing city for example) and you nick an unlikely goal. In that scenario the odds are the opposition will score whatever you do, so you may as well try and defend the lead. It still probably won’t work but it’s worth a try.

    The other is maybe with 5, at an absolute push, 10 minutes of the game left.

    Doing it against a lesser team for 45 minutes is complete and utter madness, with only one outcome. You invite them to score a goal for 45 minutes and ultimately they will.
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2020
  26. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    £5m? You must have more faith in the Pozzo scouts than I thought lol
     
  27. magyarorszag

    magyarorszag Squad Player

    4231
    Foster
    Ngakia-Kabasele-Ekong-Femenia
    Garner/Hughes/Clevs/Capoue
    Sarr Pedro Sema
    Gray

    433
    Foster
    Ngakia-Kabasele-Ekong-Femenia
    Clevs-Capoue-Hughes
    Sarr-Gray-Pedro

    plzzz
     
  28. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Well, we bought Sema for 2m didn't we? He's nothing special but at this level, good enough and offers as much as Sarr
     
  29. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Mitrovic cost Fulham about £25mil.
     
  30. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    I'm seeing 'about £22m' on reports, so fairplay, thanks, he goes in above Solanke into second place.
     
  31. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

    I’ve said it before and I will say it again...this is one of the strongest squads the championship has seen for a very long time. My cockapoo could organise this lot into a top 2 side...I’m speechless with that second half performance
     
  32. carboy98

    carboy98 Reservist

    It's getting harder and harder to defend Ivic's tactics. Not that I want to. My bed is getting wetter every game. What kind of boneheaded manager makes those changes at half time, trying to sit on a 1-0 lead. Our players, not exactly the most loyal bunch to begin with, must be seeing decisions like that and be tearing their hair out. It feels like he's trolling us at the moment. We will not go up with this turd in charge - and even if we did, would we want him managing us in the Prem? I wish we still had Pearson.
     
  33. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

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    Goooood, goooood... let the urine flow through you
     
  34. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Shame.
    That was so close to the "Baldrick the cocker spaniel please" line!
    Nevertheless keep him or her available for the time being please,every chance they'll get the job.
     
  35. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Yep. It drives me round the bend.
     

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