Who Stays And Who Goes?

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Hogg-DEENEY!!!, Feb 9, 2020.

  1. Scott no save Loach

    Scott no save Loach Academy Graduate

    Keep Hughes, everyone else can **** off.
     
  2. Cude>2<

    Cude>2< First Team Captain

    Pretty much this. Bin em all keep Hughes and the younger ones like Pedro.

    Not sure on his contract, but if it's a year would keep Troy then let him go on a free to Birmingham - or even see if Birmingham want him on a free. He's done enough for the club over the years to end his career at his boyhood club
     
  3. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    Would bin them all off and start again.

    The only player i'd want to stay is Hughes and there's no way he will stay, he's far too good for the Championship and will end up at a Leeds or Brighton or someone.

    Sarr, Doucoure, Deulofeu, Capoue & Pereyra sales needed to clear massive debts and we will rely on players from Udinese's stiffs again like we did when Pozzo first arrived.

    Really hope we can keep hold of our top young talent (Sarr excluded as he will be off) like Quina (absolutely disgraceful he has barely featured), Wilmot, Pedro (ditto Quina) & Penaranda. However, if they had any sense they'd instruct their agents to play for a club that actually wants to develop them!

    Genuinely don't know who will be here next season, but got no doubt we will see the same old tired sh*t we've had to endure this year (Foster, Deeney, Holebas, Dawson, Gray, Mariappa etc).

    I actually hate this club.
     
  4. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Quina came in last season and did do well. We were raving about him. He got injured and that was it. Never to be seen again.

    I truly believe Giraldi just can't be bothered with the young players. If we can't loan them out and make them someone else's problem, then **** them. They aren't going to get a chance in the team ahead of the big earners and sorry, a season of doing nothing.

    This is partially proven by Pearson coming in and saying that Quina wasn't fit enough to play.

    No wonder he went to a party. He isn't going to be involved anyway so why not?
     
  5. Pretty sure we will get good offers for and sell Hughes, Sarr, Doucs, Pereyra and Del

    From what's left I would find a Zola type manager and build a side something like...

    .....................Dahlberg.......................
    ..New.....Wilmot....New...Estupinan..
    ............Capoue............Chalobah.......
    ......New......Quina maybe....Pedro....
    ........................Suarez........................
     
  6. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    What I truly find mind boggling is the decision making process by the management in deciding that players who are contracted to this club but not given a single chance are somehow worse options than proven, laughable s**te like Andre Gray.

    Don't give me this "young and not ready" bulls**t. There is absolute NO WAY the likes of Pedro could do worse than Gray. There is NO WAY that Quina could be less effective than Cleverley. There is NO WAY that Wilmot would have been a worse option than Mariappa.

    We continue to let these repeat offending, utter c**ts perform horrifically over and over and over again whilst sticking our middle finger up to young players who may well give us something if they're giving a f**king chance. It's beyond a joke.
     
  7. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    **** 4-2-3-1. Sick of it.
     
  8. It's not the formation that's the problem
     
  9. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    It is far from over yet because we are not even in the relegation zone yet and there are only two games left
     
  10. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    It's alright, we'll win the next game.
     
  11. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Estupinan has been an absolute star in La Liga. He will not be here next season, neither will Suarez. The right back slot will be filled by the f**king embarrassment that is Femenia or serial crock Janmaat, Dawson/Cathcart/Mariappa will continue at centre back, with Deeney and Gray continuing to steal a living up front.

    It's all so inevitable that we will only continue on the downward trend we are on and persist with these absolute w**kers we're lumbered with.
     
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  12. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    It's not over until Villa or Bournemouth say it is.
     
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  13. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    Well if the others lose and they would-be favourites to, does it matter?
     
  14. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky First Year Pro

    Of the ones who play I'd keep Hughes, Sarr (but he'll be sold cheaply) Gerry (but how will his injury affect him)

    Difficult to say with the fringe players because we NEVER GET TO SEE THEM!

    get rid of Success, Femenia, Mariappa, Janmaat Masina, Deeney, Foster, , Holebas, Cleverley, Gomes, Gray, Capoue, Pereyra
     
  15. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Yup. Never before has something that’s been completely in our hands actually been totally in the hands of others.
     
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  16. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    That's what we said the other day, me included.

    Since then Villa have picked up 4 points and Bournemouth 3. We had to at least take a point tonight but the shirkers bottled it completely, and now we are f**ked.
     
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  17. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Exactly. No doubt the squad share this attitude.
     
  18. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    It is reassuring to have the old Nath back. One bright spot from tonight.
     
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  19. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    At least I can say I tried. Unlike our football team.
     
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  20. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Build the team around a spine of Foster, Mariappa, Dawson, Cleverley, Deeney, Gray

    100 point season incoming!
     
  21. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    There was a moment where we thought we’d lost him. All I can say is it’s good to see the team can come together and make Nath miserable again.
     
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  22. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    I genuinely think I was better at 15 playing at county level for school than Andre Gray is now. I'm honestly not joking either.
     
  23. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    Well a point would have been better of course but a thread saying it's over with two games to go three points ahead and better goal difference is premature in my own opinion.
     
  24. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    You do realise we are playing Man City next, yes? Have you watched our previous performances and seen our results against them? Are you are aware that they have De Bruyne and we have Cleverley?
     
  25. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    Have you seen us play? Or our fixtures? 1 win from the four games those two play (including two on the final day against teams on the beach) and were down.
     
  26. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    Gray would tear up the Championship. It's a lower level.
     
  27. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    You do realise that Bournemouth are playing Southampton and Villa are playing Arsenal next yes?
     
  28. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Just nowhere near low enough a level where he'd be effective.

    If they decide to relegate us 4 divisions then he might just about scrape double figures.
     
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  29. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    I'm sorry, you think Southampton are anything like as tough a game as Manchester City? Even Arsenal aren't in the same stratosphere. They are both games that Bournemouth and Villa could take points from, whereas we are infinitely more likely to lose 8-0 again than even scrape a point against City.
     
  30. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    You'll feel better tomorrow. Get a good night's sleep.
     
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  31. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    No but Southampton are more likely to beat Bournemouth than they are to beat Southampton and, Arsenal are very likely to beat Aston Villa in that case even if we all lose even if we get beat by Manchester City 22-0 then they would both still have to win their next games and we would need a draw.

    So no it isn't over.
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2020
  32. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Well yes it matters because we are very likely going to get bent over by a mind-blowingly superior team, whilst our two relegation rivals have games in which they have a far better chance of getting points.

    It's a 99.99999% chance we won't pick up anything but a firm ****ing from City. The same cannot be said for the other two with their fixtures. To assume we'll all definitely lose makes no sense, but to assume we definitely will certainly does.
     
  33. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Feel we're gonna be lumbered with many of the very average PL players we have now, namely the defence and attack. Even with loan players returning, we'd need a bit of work to have a chance of bouncing back...
     
  34. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    The point I am making is it is not over yet it's not like we are miles behind. We are just as likely to pick up points against Arsenal as Villa are and tmwadwgmd
    To be fair Bournemouth and Villa are just as likely to lose their last two than they're to win any so it's not over yet.
     
  35. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    We either seem to have a lot of ageing deadwood or younger guys who don't get a chance.

    How many players do we have potentially in their "peak"?

    Hughes is one and he is at least putting in the effort.
     

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