Must must must win game. One more win might just do it depending on the Muff and AV scores this week. 0-2. FFS Gino, just bung Ashley a few £m.....
I'm getting nervous already. I think I preferred the cheese jokes to talk of looming relegation. Mind you I read Leicester got an equaliser last night so might focus on that.
Would we expect to beat Spurs? No. We'd expect to be comfortably brushed aside, and Bournemouth are arguably, somehow, significantly worse than us right now. I'm probably the biggest pessimist on here, but thinking Bournemouth will get anything from Spurs seems a stretch even for me. They are absolutely woeful. I also think we will beat Newcastle on Saturday. Purely because we will have the extra days rest and a little bit of confidence, they potentially have key players missing, and really do have nothing to play for at all. Unless Deeney starts.
I'll be gripping my WFC designer maracas (signed by every member of the 1972 relegation squad) extra tight for this one, that's for sure!
I think it's fear talking, rather than any real confidence in Bournemouth to get a result. We're afraid they'll pull a win out, so it becomes much more real. But like you said...we'd expect Spurs to brush us aside with ease, and Muff are worse than us at the moment, so there's a degree of cognitive dissonance going on.
Bizarrely, that is exactly what we said going into Burnley. They beat us with minimal fuss. An extra few days rest and key players out means little if the side you put out is pure garbage and spineless against them.
Think the abuse some keyboard warriors give Deeney is pretty inappropriate given what he has contributed to this club. If you think he's played poorly and should be dropped then fair enough, but it's unnecessary to be so derogatory. He's near the front of the queue for a statue so pipe down. Here are some of my favourite Deeney moments: Goal vs Leicester in 2013 Play Off Semi Final Scoring 20 goals+ in 3 successive seasons Captaining us to promotion Captaining us to stay up His 97th minute penalty to force extra time in the 2019 FA Cup SF Scoring 129 goals for Watford As for the match: I would drop Deeney for this. He seems to be lacking fitness. Prediction Watford 1-2 Newcastle Foster (bicycle kick 7); Shelvey (90+1, 90+5)
He's been a great servant, but your list sums it up. Everything 5 or 6 years apart from a penalty against Wolves. He's long overstayed his usefulness and he hinders the building of a team now. Everything seems to be built with the assumption that he starts up front so it hinders our progress and in fact regresses us. That is why people are so frustrated with the situation. And we all know he'll start up front next season as well.
A bit unfair - I would add to the above list: His partnership with Ighalo in our first season back in the big time Scoring his first goal in the Prem at Stoke in front a jubilant away crowd (only wish I was there, and not often you say that about a Stoke away trip!) Scoring at Palace in the same season to give us our sixth away win (between 1986/87 and 2015/16 away wins in the top flight were as rare as rocking horse sh1te) Scoring the equaliser against Palace at Wembley, just about the only highlight in a very disappointing performance His form and commitment in the second half of 2015/16, when he was the only player to actually improve rather than get worse His penalty against Man Utd to make it 3-1 (I'd just got my new iPhone and unfortunately wasn't quick enough to capture it) Scoring against Villa in 2015/16 and this season Scoring against Liverpool in the 3-0 win this season Admittedly much of that is from 2015/16, but I've picked three moments from more recent seasons. Unfortunately, in the last four seasons I agree that the indifferent and bad has outweighed the good, he is almost as bad as Gray now and actually worse than the latter was in 2017/18, and we should have shown more ambition and got an established PL/top of Championship striker as back-up or upgrade for Deeney, rather than continue to build the team round him and hinder our progress.
Newcastle currently getting thrashed at City. We should be called Watford Vets. We take care of all wounded animals.
Watching this Burnley-Spam game, apart from the fact that I'm grateful for them basically holding Spam's head an arms length away like a child so none of their punches land, Burnley even pop the ball around pretty well. They've kept possession consistently, and they mostly haven't even resorted to playing like the classic full on Burnley ****s. On top of that, they all work so hard, throughout the match; it's a shocking indictment of any player, and indeed team, who allow themselves/their players to amble about absent-mindedly, jogging and flat-footed half of the match.
Saint-Maximin and Almiron change the whole dynamic of the match. Hard to predict until the line-up! Also Newcastle won't have a great deal of time to prepare for this. Travelling from Manchester tonight, early kick off in Watford on Saturday. Travel Friday?
Hello, I can't see Watford vs Newcastle on sky sports is it being shown at all if not does anyone know a way to see it? Thanks
Suspect the 'injured players' tonight was just an excuse to rest them in a game they knew they'd lose anyway I think we will be lucky if we get a point from this game
He's a fat, unlikeable, pig headed bully. All ocsdlooked when he was scoring but now it's all that's left.
You said that apart from the penalty against Wolves he hasn't done anything of note in the last five years, I listed some things to refute that.
Absolute gamesmanship from Newcastle. I hope it fires our boys up and it backfires badly on Newcastle. The tactic is simple, the execution is the challenge. Similar to Palace in stopping Zaha, you stop Palace. We have to treat ASM the same way. Double up on him, shut him out and Newcastle will have nothing. Easier said than done. He is their outlet every time. We need to sit deep so he can’t exploit our backline by getting in behind. Just like we did against Norwich, sit deep and compact, then break through Sarr. Hopefully Deeney will be dropped.
I'm sure you can find plenty of clips of it on YouTube, but I just wanted my own personal version of it taken from the stands (and I still have the phone I attempted to take it on). Ah well... In retrospect that game doesn't sound so special given the heap of sh1te that season turned out to be, but at the time it was quite special because it was a long time since we'd taken anything off Man Utd, let alone beaten them so convincingly.
Technically. But I'm not sure some achievements from 2016 really helps your argument but well done for being a pedant.
But I also listed one from 2016/17, and couple from this season when almost everyone else has been claiming he's finished. Oh, and another penalty against Man U this season that started the great escape.
I can't agree with this, though RMT79's post-match assessment of our performance against Norwich seemed pretty harsh at first, on further reflection I agree with him/her. We need to find a way of compensating for Deulofeu's absence and adopt a more attacking style and stick to it throughout, as our purple patch at the turn of the new year showed we are better defensively on the front foot than on the back when the frailties of our back line are less exposed, and of course have more chance of scoring.
