So it seems Fury is truly the king right now. I don't like the man personally, but he's the real deal and I suspect, in a unification match, will be too much for AJ too.
Given the problems he's had, that was a stunning performance. The guy really has some balls to take the fight to a brutal punched like Wilder in his own back yard. Beat the **** out of him.
Wilder is over rated, I don't even think he's the 3rd best HW. Tyson edges AJ for me but you never know in a fight.
There will be rematch and I just hope we actually see a fury AJ fight, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it never actually happens. Either way Fury will wipe the floor with AJ.
Said for years, on this very website in fact, that Wilder was a fraud. No third fight needed as this was as definitive as it gets. You don't get a rematch when your corner chucks in the towel.
He's finished. Fury can drop off the title if he wants to fight Joshua instead. The belts are becoming meaningless in the heavyweight division because of the upcoming round of mandatories. The only ones that matter in the division now are Fury, AJ, Usyk and Whyte. The others are fodder.
You and me both. Wilder is arguably the biggest fraud in boxing history. An absolute one trick pony who has done nothing in his career but KO absolute nobodies, and somehow people have fallen for it. I took great delight in watching Fury completely and utterly expose him for what he really is (although Fury already exposed him in the first fight, even when half fit) and batter the **** out of the clown. Joshua vs Fury has to happen at some point this year now. No excuses.
I never used to like fury. But over the last year or so he’s really grown on me. Admire him for doing what he’s done. Completely out classed wilder in his own back yard. I think AJ would be a very interesting fight and one the sport needs but if I was to put money on it I’d back AJ just. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I think AJ is a great guy but has a glass chin. Very much like Frank Bruno. I can't see past a Fury win.
I think Fury is an absolute league above. He just has an innate talent for boxing. His movement, tactical nous and chin are up there with the best I've ever seen in the heavyweight division. Yesterday was an absolute dismantling that no one else in the division is capable of. Other than the power of his hook, Fury outclasses Joshua in every way. Joshua v Wilder would be a much closer and more entertaining fight as both are evenly matched.
Having seen a few programmes on Tyson - he is not just blessed with his sheer size, and skill to be a top level boxer. The man has a personality built on incredible self belief and confidence. His recovery from the last round knockdown in his first fight with Wilder was as much about his absolute belief in himself as it was about the physical ability to take and recover from a knockdown punch.
Yup. And it looks like he's going to the take the ££££. Laughably blaming his ring walk costume for him losing.
It's pathetic and killing the division. If Fury wins, Whyte will have to wait until late next year or even 2022 for his shot. And with him refusing to fight bums, it's almost unthinkable he won't come unstuck against a Ruiz or Usyk. If Wilder wins, then they'll likely have a forth fight. Unfathomable considering how poor Wilder is. As for Joshua, he'll have to fight Pulev now and likely Usyk if he comes through any Chisora fight before we even get to a Fury unification by which time, Fury will probably decide he's had enough. He already thinks he's achieved everything there is to achieve. As usual, there won't be one champion and the endless, boring talk about it will go on and on. I just wish Fury would drop the title, he doesn't need it, Joshua can do the same with any boring mandatories he has on the agenda and they fight in the summer. Wilder can then fight and lose to Whyte for the vacant WBC title. Other divisions have proved that belts are ultimately irrelevant, the heavyweights for some reason haven't caught up.
I will never understand the argument for this. What actually is the basis of it? The fact he's lost one fight by TKO, where he was clearly concussed by a shot to the temple, and still couldn't be put flat out or completely kept down? Other than that fight he's been down one other time in his career when he took a massive, clean, straight right from Klitschko, who is a big, big puncher, which he got up and recovered very well from and then went on to win the fight. Seems like saying Joshua has a "glass chin" is just the done thing now, despite the fact there's actually little evidence behind it. Questionable defence? Yes. Glass chin? Not really.
Maybe glass chin is harsh but he was sleep walking in both of those fights after what seemed like one decent punch in both. In the Klitchko fight it came from a figher who had just been put down himself. He stayed on his feet somehow but his mind was away with the fairies. It's all just opinion of course but he reminds me of Bruno who had the same blank stare once hit and the same great physique and rigid set up. Just an opinion of course but I think Tyson would flatten him.
I'm pretty sure Bruno never came back from a shot like Klitschko gave AJ. Bruno only had to be caught once and it was game over. AJ's problem was leaving himself open when on the offensive as he was desperate for a KO. Get cleanly hit by any decent heavyweight and you're going down. Fury is no puncher yet he put Wilder down twice. AJ's (hopefully) learnt the lesson of Ruiz and absolutely schooled him in the rematch. He learnt to box, something I didn't think he had in him, which why a fight with Fury - in his Ruiz 2 style, will be an amazing fight. Tyson was an animal, for sure, but just like with Wilder, stick him in with a real boxer and not bums, he loses every time.
I give him a lot of credit, he's probably the best heavyweight around. Just not in the same class of Lennox Lewis.
People seem to forget that Fury has been put down by Steve Cunningham. And Wilder twice. And struggled hugely against Otto Wallin. Yes he came through those moments but they can be no more swept under the carpet than Joshua doing the same against Klitschko (who is a level above all the names above). The reality is that Fury and Joshua are on similar levels, with Joshua having a marginally better resume in terms of opponents. Joshua has a better boxing ability than Wilder. Wilder hit Fury once/twice and let him off the hook both times. I don’t think Joshua allows that to happen so easily...if he can hit. But Joshua has no more of a ‘glass chin’ than Fury. Personally I think it’s a 50/50 fight and whoever imposes their style first wins. If it happens of course. As bad as Wilder is as a boxer, he’s shown he can catch Fury, and I just can’t shake this feeling that being so close to a undisputed unification fight between two Brits, that Wilder will ruin it somehow. I really wish that in their contract that any rematch was void if either fighter threw the towel in. I agree with @GoingDown - it’s ludicrous to have a rematch when one fighter was outclassed to the point of ‘quitting’.