Ben Wilmot

Discussion in 'Former Players Archive' started by Smudger, May 26, 2018.

  1. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    I hope Ben is either starting an Open University degree or making a real pest of himself in the Swansea discotheques, otherwise he will have wasted 2 seasons.
     
  2. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Probably playing their own youngsters and think that Van Der Horn is still there ?
     
  3. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    It’s a long season in the Championship and he will be rotated in, but if he doesn’t force his way in to their first choice XI by January we should send him elsewhere if possible (or put him in our team?).
     
  4. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I think if he's not able to get in Swansea's team it's unlikely he will get in ours
     
  5. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    You’ve made the mistake of assuming that our defence is at least on par with Swansea’s.
     
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  6. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Good point. Get him back straight away
     
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  7. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Another 90 mins spent warming the bench.
     
  8. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Another pointless loan for him.
     
  9. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    They have 2 kids playing in their defence as it is .
     
  10. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    Holding his own on the bench
     
  11. Leighton Buzzer

    Leighton Buzzer Reservist

    He'll wish he stayed at Stevenage, and I don't blame him.
    Well from a footballing point of view anyway, although I expect we are paying him considerably more than Stevenage were.
     
  12. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Don’t know how anybody could call it a pointless loan.

    The insight he’s gaining into life at level will be valuable when he’s sat on our bench next year in the Championship.
     
  13. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    I presume he doesn't mind going out on loan and being a sub .

    Guess we didn't insist he plays like some clubs do .
     
  14. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    He may wish he’d gone to another club who were interested (Spurs and Arsenal were keen supposedly) but I doubt it. He’d be even further from the 1st team there. And I as close to certain as can be that he’d rather have joined us and played a season at Udinese and train with better players. He still young and his career path is going the right way, even if everyone would have liked him to get more minutes so far at Swansea.
     
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  15. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    How many matches will Ben start in 2019?

    Tragic waste of an opportunity to develop a young talent.

    You don’t improve by running around in a bib.

    Also, how much will he be paid in 2019?

    A million?

    Broken system.
     
  16. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Has to earn the right to play though. If they've made the judgment that others are more able at this point, then learning to usurp them in the team is something he will have to learn. They are currently top so he can't complain. The manager there knows him from England youth level so I'm sure he will get game time.

    Fans often tout that the parent club will insert a clause saying how much a player has to play - but I can't see many clubs agreeing to that in these current times. Clubs have to play the best available at that time.
     
  17. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    I agree re Swansea.

    My point was broader in that, with the current stockpiling system, so much outstanding young talent doesn’t play much competitive football.

    You only improve under match pressure.

    Maybe a Watford stockpile is testament to how far we’ve come.
     
  18. Leighton Buzzer

    Leighton Buzzer Reservist

    Maybe then, it might have been a better idea, had we loaned him back to Stevenage.
     
  19. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Not good enough for the wretched udinese, not good enough for a dreadful swansea side.

    Yet another terd plucked out of an ocean of diamonds by the Best Scouting Network In The World.

    Wilmot, dawson, welbeck.....whatever happened to signing mad swarthy foreigners no one's ever heard of?

    It is no coincidence we're total shyt now we've started signing british journeymen.
     
  20. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    I once had a dream that we were a team of 10 Gianni Munari’s and 1 Almen Abdi. It was the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen.
     
  21. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Playing tonight for Swansea. They’re 4-0 up on the half hour. Safe to say it’s not going to be an intensive workout for their defence tonight.
     
  22. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    Why don't we loan him, quinua, dahlberg, peneranda, delebishu and sucess to Bolton?
     
  23. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Been called to the England U21’s for the first time - so now Boothroyd gets his hands on him!
     
  24. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    A decent coach you mean. Aidy>Javi
     
  25. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    Aidy will teach him to clear his lines properly...........and HOOF.........and HOOF...........and.......
     
  26. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Encouraging news for him, as it's the start of a new U21 cycle now as a load of players will no longer have been eligible after the summer tournament. He could be involved for 4 years I think if he can force his way into some first team action here or elsewhere.
     
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  27. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    England Under-21s' first match this evening, vs Turkey, hopefully Ben gets some minutes.
     
  28. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Ha, he's not even on the bench.
     
  29. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    There was a bizarre number of subs though as in internationals the rest of the squad can be on the bench. I would suspect an injury of sorts.
     
  30. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Didn't feature vs Kosovo.
     
  31. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    He's absolute shyte.
     
  32. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    If he's worse than Van Der Horn he's really in trouble.
     
  33. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    You don’t change a winning team and in fairness they do keep winning.
     
  34. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Cancel the loan and throw him in. He literally cannot be any worse than Dawson and Cathcart.
     
  35. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    The problem is that he could be.

    So far this season our best players have been whichever ones haven't been on the pitch at the time. As soon as any other players have been called upon they've turned out to be as cack as the rest of them.

    Janmaat was going to save us from the disaster that has been Kiko, and he scores an abysmal own goal on his return. Welbeck and Sarr were going to transform our attack and they did little. Foulquier was going to help tighten us up yet he was subbed after 30 minutes. Cathcart was going to show why he has generally been considered our best CB yet he was as ineffective yesterday as Dawson.

    And don't get me wrong, I think Dawson is the worst CB that has played for us since we've been back in the Prem, and I would be willing to give Wilmot a chance in his place. But he's also still just a kid who can't get in to Swansea's team and it's clear the issues go deeper than just one player. Chances are we'd still be trash if he came in.

    I'd rather Kabs back in than Dawson, but our defence would still be poor then (especially with LB such a big issue).
     
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