Transfer Talk & Suggestions

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Burnsy, Apr 29, 2018.

  1. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    There’s no need to be tetchy.

    I have done as you said and every article I found said that Spurs opening bid was £20m and they never went higher as they were trying to barter the price down due to Villas financial issues. Once Villa’s new owners were in place, every article I’ve looked at says they then said they wanted double that as a ploy to scare clubs off and it worked. We can say we want £75m for Doucoure - it doesn’t mean he is worth it. We could say Capoue is worth £45m. Would we then have a £120m duo in our midfield? No, because they aren’t worth that.

    As for McGinn, it was one outlet that reported that and the others followed suit. But it had all the hallmarks of sensationalism without foundation.

    I accept I may have been a bit wide of the Mark with what I said so I apologise for that. But likewise, I stand by the comments that the pair are worth nowhere near £100m.

    But in fairness, I can see why you have said they are a £100m duo - if Villa think Mings is worth £25m, their values of their CM’s is about right for them.
     
  2. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    One of the best No.9 strikers ever? I dare say for a fellow young South American, there would be a certain attraction to being in an environment near him and perhaps being able to learn and get advice from him too.
     
  3. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Ronaldo threatened to eat him unless he signed for them.
     
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  4. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Him owning the club doesn't mean he'll be spending much time on the training pitch though.
     
  5. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    If Ronaldo were to threaten to eat him unless he signed for them, and Deeney were to threaten to eat him unless he stayed, I wonder which would win out.
     
  6. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    "Good age" ? 30 this month. So not much of a resale value at the end of the contract and a full write off if he doesn't bang in the goals.
     
  7. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    And you believe that somebody will pay £50m for Mcginn? Spurs offered £20m-£25m I believe. Villa may have quoted that price knowing full well nobody would pay it. Both have an awful lot to prove in the Premier League before they can be priced at that kind of figure
     
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  8. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I’m aware of that. I’m just reporting what has been said in the report and why it may have been said.
     
  9. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Is he actually that old?! I take it back then. I still think it’s a decent price for a striker who has shown he can do a good job in the PL. But not quite the deal I believed as genuinely thought he was 3/4 years younger!
     
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  10. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Yes surprised me too !
     
  11. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I’m not sure if anyone would pay 40m for Grealish but in a world where average unproven players go for 15-25m it wouldn’t surprise me if they could get it for a rising star home grown attacking midfielder.

    So 100m or 50m the pair, the point I was making is that I don’t see why Villa are going to struggle this year or be another Fulham.
     
  12. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Because they are not buying anything special and what they are buying is way over priced. Targett couldn't get in a bang average Southampton side that spent the whole season dicing with relegation and Mings has barely played Premier League football and has a dreadful history of injuries. The fact Bournemouth cashed in on him despite being awful at the back says a lot. I can't say I know anything about Wesley but his record does not scream that they have signed a striker that will score the goals to keep them up. £60m+ on three players who may not be be much better than what Cardiff had last year. I think they could well struggle and are massively reliant on Grealish making the step up
     
  13. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Time will tell. I think they’ve got a decent base of a premier league squad, a good manager and their spending will continue. Plenty of more likely relegation candidates.
     
  14. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Time will tell indeed and it's only my opinion but I think they will be down there next season
     
  15. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    According to Transfermarkt Mings made 17 appearances for Bournemouth at centre back, and three as a left back, so I'm not sure it's fair to say that he only converted to a centre back at Villa, and yeah, he was always seen as a CB in waiting going back to his Ipswich days. Because of that, I think it's fair to make at least some judgement based on the fact that he couldn't get anywhere near a starting place for Muff over a period of four seasons.

    I certainly agree that they've done well to get what they have for him and that he represents a significant risk given his relative lack of top-level experience and injury history, as well as his predilection for stamping on people's faces.
     
  16. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Hence why I said it was only at Villa where he was converted to CB full-time....
     
  17. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    United interested in Lemina supposedly which is a bit strange as Southampton have made him surplus to requirements and he never got a full run of games there....

    Alberto Moreno has signed for Villarreal. Thought he’d have been a good free signing for us to take interest in personally.
     
  18. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Huh?
     
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  19. Ray Knight

    Ray Knight First Year Pro

    Have to agree. Getting in one of the crazy dribblers and the Periero guy in midfield would make more chances for the strikers. We need to nail 2 or 3 signings soon, before the competition catches up and prices rise. The last few days could be manic otherwise if we are left looking in the bargain bucket.
     
  20. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    We should be dangling the likes of Deeney and Gray under the noses of West Ham right now.

    Hernandez being forced out, Arnautovic and Carroll, Hugill not good enough and up for sale - and a deal for Maxi Gomez has fallen through and Callum Wilson signing a new contract.

    Good opportunity to take advantage of their desperation and deep pockets.
     
  21. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    We’re already sifting through the bargain bucket looking for the next Ken Sema.
     
  22. another_mrlizard

    another_mrlizard Squad Player

    Perhaps if you didn't spend so much time sifting through Bargain Buckets, you wouldn't have got stuck in the turnstile at Wembley.
     
  23. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    I am surprised Spam haven’t put a big offer in for Delefeou.
     
  24. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    We're beneath them , no matter how good our players are.
    (Good effort on the spelling by the way.)
     
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  25. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Aston Villa signing Ezri Konsa from Brentford for £12m according to SSN.

    I swear someone in here last week claimed to have inside knowledge that they were struggling to attract players!

    Good signing. Price is a little on the steep side but such is the market these days. One good season and he has the ability to be close to the England squad and worth far more than £12m.
     
  26. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Quite small for a CB. Other than that looks to have the makings of a good player; he and Mings could be a promising partnership at the back for them.
     
  27. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Villa supposedly signing 2 more players - Douglas Luiz from City for £15m and Bjorn Engels from Reims for £22m.

    Can't makeup if they are doing a Fulham, or if they were weak last season and relying on loans that have gone back. Either way, they are adding numbers and not shy in the market like someone claimed a week ago on here!
     
  28. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Someone said they were having trouble signing players.
    It might just be that the queue was too long and they've rectified this by introducing barriers and hired 3 more medical staff and a larger legal contracts team.
     
  29. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    The challenge when you add so many new heads is you lose that sense of team and create cliches. If you then lose your first few games there's very little "backbone" to fall back on and morale can drop very quickly as happened with Fulham.
     
  30. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    £100m and counting. The could well be the Fulham of this season or they could be Wolves. Difficult to tell as most of them haven't played here before or if they have, it's not many. Is that 4 centre backs they've now bought?
     
  31. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Douglas Luiz is a defensive midfielder I think - but Konsa, Hause, Engels, Mings, Targett...and James Chester was there already and is captain.

    They are also favourites to sign Harry Wilson from Liverpool I see....
     
  32. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    One thing is for sure, it is an open secret that they are struggling to attract players.
     
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  33. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Out of the players they had on loan they've signed El-Ghazi and Mings permanently now. Tuanzebe and Abraham have left, but I think they've replaced them perfectly adequately with Wesley and Konsa (and perhaps this Engels guy at CB as well).

    I've no idea what these two latest signings of theirs are like, Engels and Luiz, but from the other signings the've made so far I suspect they have more of an idea what they're doing than Fulham - for one thing their sporting director, Jesus Garcia Pitarch, used to be director of football at both Atletico and Valencia in the not too distant past.

    Out of their recent signings the only ones I don't really rate are Hause and Targett, but I suspect that they're more likely to be squad options given they're already covered in their positions.
     
  34. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    SIGN SOMEONE ******* ANYONE FOR THE LOVE OF GODDDDDD
     
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  35. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I think we have to steel ourselves for the probability our recruitment is complete for the summer.
     

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