Wolverhampton Wanderers 0-2 Watford FC - 20/10/2018

I was very impressed with how balanced their forum was, especially compared to ours at times.

I may have to re address my bigoted viewpoint that anyone living beyond Junction 5 is a Thick Northern Monkey

 

Shr*dingers. Welcome to 18 hours ago.

 

I completely agree. I was pleasantly surprised at their balanced and realistic opinions. Think this forum could take a slice of that sometimes.

 

She’ll make a dishonest woman of you

 

Isn’t there a MOTD3, on a Sunday lunchtime? Or has that gone?

 

Well, excellent that you’ve worked through all that.

If Howe does come from Amersham, I could forgive him all the, well, all of what he does.

If, though, he does come from Chesham, & I hear conflicting stories, we’ll, he better not do it again.

I’m sure Stephen can be replaced.

Certainly Twigg S (politico) was rather here today, gone tomorrow.

 

And don’t let us forget Prunella Scales.

 

Don’t we have to come in the first place before we come again?

 

Btw, you’d better get in your Lucan style death pretty soon to beat the Budget.

 

Not when Prunella Scales is around .

 

Nice hitchhikers reference

 

Ba-SIL!

 

I think it should be Scherzinger.

 

The forum has invented time travel.

 

There’s a stratum of Thick Midlands Monkeys before you get to the northern types.

Of course, before that there’s B**********e.

 

When the match finished a small group in front of us unveiled a rainbow style LGBT flag with a Watford badge on it. I didn't see it during the match so maybe they were a bit shy about unveiling it. I was delighted. How many clubs fans would have the guts to do that? Good on them, I just wish I'd got a picture.

 

Well, she seems like a nice girl.

 

Just watched Goals on Sunday and it was even worse coverage than BBC. As you stated, we were actually last on and it was a case of Watford spoiling the party. They only wanted to talk about how good Wolves are, but had to be restricted. It was all about their manager and how good he is and how good their team usually are. They excused the defeat as a bad day for them. The kindest thing they said about Watford is that we are unpredictable.

No credit was given for us to rock up and beat this season's "wonder team". I just feel we do not get any credit at all for anything the club achieves. Only defeats like losing 0-4 at home to Bournemouth is given prime viewing.

Not sure why it's like this, why Watford are so unfashionable. I see some of our football, especially they way we controlled the first half, stroking the ball around and Wolves could not get a touch for long periods, but is it even commented on? Usually the team that wins gets the credit and are analysed favourably. Their good play is highlighted and the opponent's poor play is also talked about. Going by Goals on Sunday, you would have thought Wolves had won the match.

I suspect if we won at City it would be a similar thing. Watford get the biggest fluke result of the season because of a dreadful Man City performance. If we win, it's because the other side are bad. If we lose it's because the other side are good. That's the stance they always seem to take.

 

Not sure why this is such a bone of contention with you HB1. I'm happy to be ignored and glossed over, the less attention we receive the more other teams underestimate us.

I am sure Wolves thought Saturday would just be a routine win for them.

 

Bloody Wolves have got the best fans as well as the best team.

 

Surely if we all bombard our non native English speaking players with it, they will just assume it's a common English Idiom, like "in this moment."

 

I feel generally it's the vast 'either end of the scale' inconsistency that confuses the wider football viewing public about Watford. Including myself. You don't know what Jekyll or Hyde team is going to show up.

One week we can lose playing like a lower Championship side & the following week can beat pretty much any team with relative ease. Seemingly no rhyme or reason for this. One thing we can say is Gracia has made it vastly more consistent than any other PL manager we've had & that is the key to an upper mid table/top 10 finish.

I think it's a case that other PL teams & their fans have learned to become wary of us rather than respect us. We kind of fit into the Wimbledon of the 80's mould, without the long ball (mostly).

 

I agree with your points, but I do feel that there is a default attitude that Watford are a bit rubbish and all teams should beat us. When pundits talk about Palace, for example, they are always enthused over. They are seen as a tough side to beat, and you have to play really well to beat them. They have the "world class" Zaha after all.

I keep hearing what a good job Silva is doing at Everton. It was his masterful substitutions that managed to beat a tough Palace side.

We have one bad game all season, which was referee induced, and we're called "flaky". There's no credit to the fact we are sitting 7th, above all apart from the very best (and Bournemouth). When we do well, it's usually brushed aside and quickly forgotten about. When we have a bad day at the office, it's placed in neon lights in every media outlet. It's this drip fed negative press that seeps into the conscious of the average football fan and forms the general opinion.

Naively I thought Watford would have received a lot of praise for their performance at Wolves, but no. The reason for the result was because Wolves played badly, just a Spurs, Burnley, Palace and Brighton did before them. When is the penny going to drop, that maybe we are a good side, and the reason Bournemouth, Arsenal and United beat us was because WE played badly or didn't get the breaks on the day?

 

I miss Douglas.

 

Lovely pianist apparently.

 

Dawson level?

1970s light entertainers could do it all.

 

All of them apart from Hughes & Prodl, I would guess.

 

Micah Hyde?

Gertrude Jekyll?

 

I think my Dad told me but as he's looking for celestial twigs I cannot verify,but yes.I think so.

 

I’ve just read the Times report.

Based around an interview with Deulofeu & doesn’t mention Wolves until the fifth para.

I suspect climbing the ladder of public recognition takes longer than climbing the league table.

We are definitely a stratum or two above the perception of Udders, Cardiff & probably Burnley.

Maybe in the ‘any result is possible’ box.

 

Don’t distract him as Google steps into the breach.

RV started his showbiz career as, bingo! a pianist at the Windmill Theatre in 1938.

His first comedy role was after the War on stage with Benny Hill.

A production of Gaytime.

 

Well you are talking about a quality paper, so I would expect something a little more intelligent from them.

However, you mention we are above Cardiff and Huddersfield in terms of perception, but this is exactly where we're seen. I remember when we beat Spurs and Souness said we were the best team at set-pieces apart from Cardiff. Clearly a backhanded compliment as basically that's the only way he thought we could score goals and he likened us to Cardiff.

Nothing was said about United two they beat us with two set-piece goals of course.

The thing is, even when we do good things, it's twisted into a negative. We were everyone's shoe-in for relegation before the season started. That tells me, we are considered at the same level as Huddersfield and Cardiff and worse than all the rest.

 

But

Spoiler Alert for Stuboy

Souness is a dinosaur.

I believe the general perception is changing.

First Merson, then the rest.

 

Isn't this what you just complained about, that any team that we beat played badly and not that we played well.

 

I remember one episode of MotD2 a few years back that the Irish Colin guy was presenting which had 4 or 5 games on when they decided to put the games on bits of paper in a hat or bowl. They then proceeded to pull the games out to decide the running order, I think they should do this on every episode personally.