[NOT HAPPENING] Anderson Talisca

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by wingco, Jun 11, 2018.

  1. NorwegianOrn

    NorwegianOrn Academy Graduate

    Need ITKJim's point of view before i even consider replying to this thread.
     
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  2. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

  3. Any money out there on Taliska joining us on loan from China in the next week or so?

    Just a thought.

    But very Gino.
     
  4. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Gon bak2skool m8
     
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  5. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Surely we can’t loan him from a club he’s on loan at?! Or can you?

    Wouldn’t surprise me if Gino buys him knowing full well the Chinese team will probably want to buy him permanently in January. Help Benfica’s financial problem by buying him now and then sell him at a profit in 6 months. Free money.

    But I hope we do buy him and he’s bound for us.
     
  6. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    McGugan always looked brilliant on the highlights of the game
     
  7. cfdr0ftaW

    cfdr0ftaW Academy Graduate

    http://www.gzevergrandefc.com/news.aspx?ftid=45992

    The Chinese club's official site have him posing with the shirt, so it's unlikely we'll see him before Jan, if at all.

    But as you say... Gino.
     
  8. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    I find it surprising that we may have £19m to spend on a player, but intend to keep it in a drawer until January. And that’s why I’m doubtful.
     
  9. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Perhaps but we spent half that on Penaranda and we still haven’t seen him!
     
  10. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    How much? But even then I’m not sure that money paid to Udinese is quite the same outlay as money paid to other clubs. We do seem to get it back in favours.
     
  11. jw-

    jw- Reservist

    Given how we usually fall apart after Christmas maybe it's part of the 'New Watford' strategy: only sign your good players in January.

    In reality I think it's a case of: he's far too good for us and the price is below his market value, so in long term interests of the club it's worth waiting 6 months.

    Hopefully we are not relegated by then.
     
  12. Ray Knight

    Ray Knight First Year Pro

    Spot on jw. This guy has a seriously good left peg and all the tricks in his locker. Reminds me of Mahrez but plays in midfield. Undoubtedly he is mercurial and needs careful handling. Sure Gino is taking a calculated risk of us getting a high grade player at a reasonable price. If things don't work out he can be sold almost certainly at a healthy profit. Benefica know they 're getting a wedge of money within a timeframe they can budget for. There are some seriously big clubs in Europe who are cash hungry due to FFP kicking in. This benefits the lower EPL clubs in particular if they are skilled in the market. With Deulofeu, Wilmot, Feminia, Chalobah and Hughes we have seen Gino weave his magic. Long may that continue.
     
  13. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Playing style is Chris Waddle.
     
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  14. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    If, and it’s a big if, it has any truth, the reports are saying that Benfica have sent him to China for 6 months before coming to us because if they had sold direct to us, Besiktas would have been due a cut of the fee from the Portuguese.

    These transfer deals get so convuluted these days and I can’t understand some of them. If he went to Besiktas on loan and they chose not to take up their option to sign him because they couldn’t afford it, how can they still be due a payment on someone else’s contracted player? Bizarre.
     
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  15. Don't know if it we have done it in the prem, but pretty sure Toszer was loaned to us for two years from the team he was already on loan to - in fact, in true Gino style, I believe he was loaned to the other team specifically so he could be loaned to us.

    In Gino's first season I also seem to remember loaning out one of our loanees when he turned out to be surplus to requirements.
     
  16. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Don't let him roll his sleeves up or sing then!
     
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  17. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Maybe because it would have indicated that Besiktas had done a good job of "putting him in the shop window"?

    From what I've seen of Talisca he seems quality, and at 19mil would be a great buy. However, he's yet another winger/second striker, and considering the fee and that we've just signed Deulofeu, it could suggest that either Richie or Pereyra will be off. If it was Richie I wouldn't be too disheartened, as this guy is already basically the kind of player Richie hopefully would become if he kicks on over the next few years. However, if it's true that he'll be joining in January I hope things haven't been arranged in a way which leaves us low on numbers at the start of the season.
     
  18. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Another point to note - the final game of the Chinese Super League season is actually the 11th of November! So perhaps somehow there's still a chance that even if he does play some games for Guangzhou that we'll see him here before January.
     
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  19. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    It doesn’t matter who we sign , even if it was Ronaldo , Neymar and De Bruyne we d still get relegated in that new kit .
     
  20. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    He'd be pretty shattered by the end of our season though !!
     
  21. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Its also bizarre that they can avoid having to pay them a wedge by simply loaning him somewhere else for 6 months ! If we loaned Troy to Sheff Wed for 6 mnths we'd still be due to pay walsall their cut if we then sold him.
     
  22. jw-

    jw- Reservist

    We had a deal with Barca for Deulofeu where if he sold for 20mil+ in the summer we would get 1million, presumably because we helped contribute to improving his value. I guess there is a similar deal in place with Talisca, that also expires after the summer window.
     
  23. carboy98

    carboy98 Reservist

    The Richarlison approach
     
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  24. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    yep and we know how that went in H2 !
     
  25. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    With Pereyra apparently off for about €20m this makes sense.
     
  26. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Which by an incredible coincidence was the name of the solicitors that handled our house purchase.
     
  27. Ray Knight

    Ray Knight First Year Pro

    Talisca seems to be more an ultra attacking mid...picks up the ball and runs. A free spirit like Pogba. Not sure Bobby is off but could be insurance as a Richarlison/ Doucoure replacement if we lose one (Hopefully not both) late in the window.
     
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  28. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Be gutted We've not seen the best of him yet. Flashes of absolute class and adding goals to his game. We should be building a team around him, Hughes and Nate.
     
  29. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Is this just the Torino thing or has something else happened?
     
  30. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Being linked with Fiorentina as well this morning. As good as Pereyra is, if the owners/manager are convinced that his talents are too mercurial, I could see why they may look to replace him with someone less lightweight and more consistent. That being said, if they believe they can make Pereyra both of those things over pre-season, I'd much rather he stayed. Non-homegrown spots will be at a premium I think this summer so we may well see some players leave that we don't really want to as fans.
     
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  31. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Back to back seasons didn’t seem to affect Richie.
     
  32. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    The sanest suggestion all summer.
     
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  33. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    You got there first.
     
  34. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    And Britos.
     
  35. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Uncalled for :eek:
     

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