Michael Oliver

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by hornetboy1, Apr 11, 2018.

  1. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Lots of players crowded around him, but he took the opportunity to make an even bigger headline by sending off a big name player in Buffon. I don't think he is particularly biased. Had something occurred in the Real penalty area I'm sure he would have given that and found a reason to send off Ronaldo.

    What people tend to gloss over, is Michael Oliver has form for this kind of thing. He did it to us, he did it last night, he did it in a big game in league one in a Championship decider, and these are just the ones I remember.

    You can see by the way he overly dramatizes pointing to the spot. It's theatrical. I know a lot of people are defending him because I am the poster making the accusation, and a lot of people on here have childish vendetta's. But in all honestly, I think if someone else was making this observation, a lot more would be in agreement.

    Oliver loves to make these big headline moments, so everyone is talking about him. He gets noticed, and he will use situations like these to further his own career.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43734192
    Buffon summed Oliver up. "He has a bag of rubbish for a heart".
     
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  2. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Showed some authority doing that surely?

    Better than some half hearted "well I am not sure but will give it" type situation you get when clearly a ref hears the crowd etc and then gives a decision.

    The penalty he gave us for the Richarlison incident against Arsenal was much softer - were we complaining?

    Fair point HB1 - he could have sent 6/7 Juve players off but that is never going to happen of course.
     
  3. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I don't know why not, as the headline would be massive, exactly what he craves.
     
  4. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    that's your go to every time you're wrong and no one agrees with you.
     
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  5. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    But it's true though, even though few will admit it.
     
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  6. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    I hope UEFA throw the book at Juve after their disgusting comments towards Oliver. Correct decision all day long. People are only debating it because they want something to talk about. Multiple angles show he had his hands on his back and his leg catching him in the ribs. Had he not done that, Vasquez would have scored the rebound anyway.

    If it was an English club, captain and manager who made the comments Juve have, you can bet your house on it that UEFA would ban all English clubs from the competition for 15 years. They are so anti-English it’s ridiculous. Can’t wait to see the little slap on the wrist Juve get for their outrageous behaviour.

    The Italian clubs and nation have cheated many many many times over the years. Pretty much the nation that invented diving in football. Hilarious that they get a correct decision go against them and the whole nation is on a witch hunt. Pathetic behaviour and I for one am glad they are out.

    Hoping for a Liverpool Madrid final now.
     
  7. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    This from the Juve manager who has a bit of class.

    "Sometimes things go for you, and other times they don't. We need to get over this hard moment and move forwards."
     
  8. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    If you're looking at dramatic actions from a referee Oliver has nothing on this bloke.


    an old one but a gold one.
     
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  9. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    His name is Andre Oliver. I wonder if he’s related!
     
  10. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Racist, sexist, homophobe, Lesbian Britain's Got Talent....I don't know anymore, just reign it in please.
     
  11. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever WFC Forums Last Man Standing Winner 2018/2019

    an old one but a gold one.[/QUOTE]

    Laughing

    Never seen that before. Would love to see this ref in the PL.
     
  12. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Buffon bores me. Great keeper but why don't your retire FFS? Give Donnarumma a chance of being Italy number 1. He's the future of the national team, not you.
     
  13. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Agree. I actually agreed with HB1 in this one, but him claiming anyone who has a different opinion just has a "childish vendetta" is pathetic in the extreme.
     
  14. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Here's a crazy though, but just bear with me here. What if everyone disagreeing with you is doing so because they actually think you're wrong?

    I don't give a toss about vendettas. Buffon (the captain) was the one player from the word go who was in Oliver's face, yelling at him. He's obviously a very passionate guy, but he's let his emotions get the better of him and has let his side and himself down IMO.

    As for you taking issue with the way Oliver pointed to the spot, well on that front I am absolutely speechless. A poster taking issue with the way a person points to the ground? That must be a first..
     
  15. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Of course some will genuinely think it was a penalty, but there are also quite a lot that will take the opposite view without really believing in what they are saying. It's always the same posters that do this regularly.

    Once it goes through the forum wringer, there's so many wanting to dispute what I say, that Michael Oliver comes out as completely blameless and one of the world's best referee's. I find that quite funny really.

    I'm pretty sure in reality most would say it was a soft penalty, when they saw the incident live in the moment. Now it seems to be the most blatant penalty, since the stonewall penalty he gave Knockaert.

    The vast majority in the real world think it was a soft penalty and Michael Oliver has history of making these dramatic game changing decisions. The only place where this gets disputed is on here, as always.
     
  16. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Meisterphobe
     
  17. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    I don't think anyone has suggested that. Not sure where that claim has come from.

    Don't thinkthis there's a possibility though that the other posters genuinely believe it was actually a penalty, and don't actually care about having an argument wth you?
     
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  18. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Well it was probably no more softer than Richarlison's one v Arsenal!

    As usual there seems to be a mixed reaction everywhere - I'd say most of the comments I've read and heard think it was a penalty actually.

    If Deeney or Okaka etc fall down like that tomorrow there is no doubt we'd all be crying penalty.
     
  19. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I think you are reading what you want to read.

    Several posters have said it was definite, true. But plenty of posters have said it was soft. My own initial view was that it was a penalty, but on seeing it again, I was slightly less sure, although on balance I still think the right call was made. So I guess that makes it soft.

    A soft penalty can still be a penalty though. Some referees would give it, others wouldn’t. Your initial reaction was simply to swear at Oliver, suggesting it was clear-cut that he was incompetent. That’s what people were reacting to - because it wasn’t clear-cut in that way at all.

    As for just “wanting to dispute what you have to say”: the plain fact of the matter is that you have the Barcelona club crest in your avatar. Do you not think it’s plausible that other posters might think your view of the incident was shaped by your allegiances? Are you yourself sure that it wasn’t- if that penalty had been given to them in the dying seconds of Tuesday’s game, would you have reacted in the same way?

    So, as El Distraido says, it’s really not a vendetta or just arguing with you because it’s you. It’s disputing your assessment because we disagree with it, and pointing out that your allegiance may have influenced your judgment is a part of that.

    Oh, and there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Oliver was right to send Buffon off.
     
  20. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Like I said, right from the he start it was a soft penalty.

    That and it being Michael Oliver in the last minute.

    I couldn’t give a t0ss if he gives it To RM or Juve. I just want fairness in the game.

    This character Oliver is just building his career on the back on these decisions.

    If you can’t see it, then fair enough. But it seems pretty obvious to me.
     
  21. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I wouldn’t say I can’t see it. He does give the impression of liking attention.

    But I don’t think it was unfair. I think it was a penalty, albeit not a 100% cast-iron one (in my view).
     
  22. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    It was one of those decisions that had he not given it, no one would have complained.
     
  23. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Not sure he could win really. I thought it was soft but if he hadn’t given it Madrid would have gone nuts.
     
  24. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Except Real Madrid. I don't think top level refereeing is about choosing the course of action that will lead to the least complaints.
     
  25. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    What planet are you living on? Genuinely?
     
  26. Grrwood

    Grrwood Reservist

  27. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Where does it say in the Bible that God doesn't wear black shorts?
     
  28. Grrwood

    Grrwood Reservist

    What HB1 thinks actually happened:

     
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  29. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    No, it’s about making the correct decisions without a thought of creating a drama in order to advance your own career.
     
  30. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Renaissance art generally depicts God in flowing robes

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    so the shorts would have to be underneath.

    Not impossible but would prevent the nice sensation of the cottony fabric against the skin & the welcome heavenly breeze around the nether regions.

    Mind you, the lad on the left is going all out to experience this sensual feast.

    Happily, he is keeping his pleasure with all this in check.
     
  31. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    So the ref told that Juventus guy to barge into the back of the Madrid attacker then so he could make a match changing decision for the sake of it.

    As I say if that was Deeney/Richarlison etc being pushed over in injury time we'd all be calling for a penalty - lead by you know who!

    ;)

    I remember people saying Richalison v Arsenal was very soft but others said it was a certain foul.
     
  32. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    We could do a bit more softness from Richie Boy tomorrow.
     
  33. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Quite - or least going down in the area rather than just after the half way line which seems to be the norm now!
     
  34. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Seems like the anger at Michael Oliver continues.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43771452

    Come on @hornetboy1 - it's time to let it go!
     
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  35. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    What's it got to do with his wife - poor lady.

    Mind you remember the Chelsea fans sending death threats to that ref who had a mare according to them against Barca in the semi final a few years back.

    And the England v Portugal game (I think) in Euro 2004 when Andreas Frisk was forced to quit due to the level of abuse.

    Chris Hoy used to get regular Twitter abuse because people thought he was Chris FOY!

    :rolleyes:
     

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