Granada CF 2013/2014

Discussion in 'Pozzo's Place' started by rojiblancohorizontal, Sep 3, 2013.

  1. sherlock

    sherlock Tippytappy footy expert

    Seriously? This is amazing and seems quite crazy.
    Atletico Madrid already has become an "obstacle" sometimes in the paths of Barca+Real.
    A strong team but certainly not as strong economically as the two giants.

    Should Atletico become a less occasional but quite constant nuisance, Barca and Real could "legally" offer, say, an incentive of 2M€ bonus to each "other" team which happens to win against Atletico?
     
  2. RunkleHorn

    RunkleHorn Academy Graduate

    That is absolutely mad. What if Granada offer Cordoba £x and Cordoba ask for more? surely the implication is that Cordoba won't try unless their demands are met. What a bizarre rule.
     
  3. feliuk

    feliuk First Year Pro

    It's not a rule
    When we lost the league because we missed a pen in the 85th minute the Valencia players, who had nothing to play for, celebrated like they had won the league.
    It has always been known that Barca gave them an incentive..
    When Tenerife twice got results on the last day of the league to deny real Madrid the league title they were also given an incentive.
    A lot of clubs deny that they do it, but everyone does it.
    The word is that Granada will defo give Cordoba an incentive to win the game.
    Obviously I could be wrong!!

    I seemed to be talking boiiocks , have read up on payments from 3rd parties.
    La liga do not allow it and you can be sanctioned.
    The players union want payments for winning games to be made legal.
    Players know it goes on, fans know it goes on and it goes on.
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2015
  4. rojiblancohorizontal

    rojiblancohorizontal First Year Pro

    As @feliuk says, its not a rule: In Spain, paying a team to make them lose its, obviously, illegal, but paying a team to win when they already are playing for nothing its like: "Meh, it can be there, that, at least, make that team try to play football and not stay walking all over the field"

    I totally think Granada it's going to pay Cordoba for, at least, a draw.
     
  5. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Sounds like 'match fixing' to me. Pleased we're a bit clearer over here.
     
  6. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Can we club together as a forum and maybe get Cordoba a £10 Amazon voucher or something as an incentive to win?
     
  7. feliuk

    feliuk First Year Pro

    It's not match fixing if you pay a team to win a game, IMO.
    I would call it an incentive :)

    But I don't think it should be done
     
  8. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    OK. I can agree with that.

    But what happens if they don't get the 'incentive' they expect? Does that mean they won't try? See RunkleHorn #387. Surely the minum expectation of any professional footballer is to try their very best at all times seeing as they are nearly all paid far more than the vast majorityof the people watching them.
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2015
  9. JH93

    JH93 Squad Player

    The concern for me is that, whilst they'll try especially hard in the game with the financial incentive, this may affect their performances in the game before. Surely you'd want to save yourself for a potentially lucrative win rather than risk tiring yourself or getting a ban and ruling yourself out of the next game?
     
  10. reids

    reids First Team

    Considering there's only one match left, I can't see it being much of a problem.
     
  11. JH93

    JH93 Squad Player

    Unless all Spanish football is ceasing to exist after the next game, I think my point stands.
     
  12. reids

    reids First Team

    But so so many times nobody has any idea how things will end up, until the end of the season (like both England and Spain tomorrow, a great performance by one team could change the outcome of the league)
     
  13. feliuk

    feliuk First Year Pro

    Yes Depor could go and draw with Barca, they did it 2 years ago 0-0 last game.
    Eibar could lose to Cordoba at home, Cordoba have 8 players out and are taking 2 U21's and 1 U18 for the game LOL
    Granada could beat At.Madrid when both need 1 point, Granada to Survive and Atletico to finish 3rd
    Realistically Depor will lose, Eibar will win and Granada will draw.
    The payment thing in Spain is wrong IMO, but has happened for years and until there is some law to stop it, and I don't mean the league saying you can't do it, then it will carry on.
     
  14. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Not a great start. Almeria and Eibar both winning inside 10 mins. In fact Eibar 2-0 up. Depor losing. As it stands:

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  15. Timbers

    Timbers Apeman

    They can't go down now after all this good work! Come on!
     
  16. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Eibar winning, Almeria drawing and Deportivo losing. What does this mean????
     
  17. Jellyman

    Jellyman Squad Player

    That would put Almeria and Depor below Granada...I think.
     
  18. sherlock

    sherlock Tippytappy footy expert

    Depor now 2-2 and right now Depor and Granada would be safe.
    Things changing every minute.
     
  19. Timbers

    Timbers Apeman

  20. Jellyman

    Jellyman Squad Player

    They really need to not concede here...
     
  21. sherlock

    sherlock Tippytappy footy expert

    Valencia now scored and maybe it's done. If Almeria wins Granada goes down but now that seems unlikely
     
  22. Jellyman

    Jellyman Squad Player

    Phew. That should do it.
     
  23. yellowyeller

    yellowyeller Reservist

    Obviously want Granada to hold out because of the Watford connection but also because I lived there for 2 months in 2004.

    Five mins + stoppage to go.
     
  24. sherlock

    sherlock Tippytappy footy expert

    Red card for Valencia, but Almeria has only 1'+injury time to score 2. Sounds difficult.
     
  25. THT81

    THT81 Squad Player

    Hold on for a 0-0 and it's over. Have to feel for Eibar, what are the chances...
     
  26. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    About 90 seconds left at Granada.
     
  27. wfcmatt

    wfcmatt First Year Pro

    If Deportivo get a late winner against Barca doesn't that send Granada down?
     
  28. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Well done Granada and credit to Depor.

    Along with the German league there have been 2 exciting relegation battles.

    Maybe Hull and Newcastle will produce another one?
     
  29. sherlock

    sherlock Tippytappy footy expert

    FT and pitch invasion at Granada, but it's not sure yet until games of Almeria and Depor end too
     
  30. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Almeria have lost.
     
  31. yellowyeller

    yellowyeller Reservist

    :jumping1:
     
  32. sherlock

    sherlock Tippytappy footy expert

    Full time everywhere right now, Granada is safe again!
    Well done cousins!!!
     
  33. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    that was tense well done Granada for staying up :jumping1:
     
  34. sherlock

    sherlock Tippytappy footy expert

    And well done to the Pozzo's. Next season they'll have three teams in the three most important top leagues. Amazing!
     
  35. Grrwood

    Grrwood Reservist

    Hooray!! The dream is real :jumping1:
     

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